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smith-j
#1 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2011 7:56:29 PM Quote
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Just as I thought I was going to get away from it all, something else to wonder about. I had a phone call from my GP surgery this morning. I had my normal monthly blood test on Friday for Methotrexate and it has come back abnormal. They want it doing again as there is a problem with my vitamin levels.

Now it would not suprise me if I had a vitamin D deficiency as I have become very sensitive to the sun and no longer sit out in it. Could it be this or is there something else linked to RA?

Your wonderful advice would be much appreciated.

Jackie
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jeanb
#2 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:50:59 AM Quote
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Sorry to hear this Jackie - yet more to contend with.

I may be able to help with the Vit D levels. It was discovered I had a severe Vit D deficiency back in May, but this was picked up with a Parathyroid Hormone level test and not, as far as I know, by a routine blood test. My PTH levels were twice as high as "normal" and I am now on a 20,000icu Colecalciferol capsule twice per month. The downside is that this sends the calcium levels up so I am having extra blood tests to keep an eye on this. The rheummy reckons this deficiency was adding to my exhaustion levels so we'll see how it goes.

I suspect it does have something to do with RA as it seems fairly common amongst patients. I am sure it is all connected to not being able to sit in the sun as much as we would like. Of course, when on MTX, sitting in the sun isn't an option, so we don't really have much choice!!

Good luck and I'll be very interested to hear how you get on.

Lots of love
Jeanxx
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2011 1:16:53 PM Quote
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Hi Jackie,

I also have low vitamin D but it wasn't picked up on the normal blood tests.
I wonder if you have a folate (B9) deficiency which can lead to deficient B12. I think the folate deficiency can be picked up on the routine blood tests that we have.
This is only speculation, I'm not saying this is what was found in your blood test, you'd be better asking your GP.
Hope it can be sorted out for you soon.

Love, Doreen xx
Rose-B
#4 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2011 1:39:11 PM Quote
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When I was first diagnosed I was told I needed to take Vitamin D tablet morning and night.
Mine were called Adcal. However, I have not taken any for a year now and am not sure if
I still need them though. When I sent in for a repeat prescription about a year ago, it came
back saying that Adcal by itself is not 'enough', but I have never asked him about it again.
I was at Docs yesterday so I am sure if it was a problem he would have mentioned it to me !
Who knows.

I feel that it does go hand in hand with RA an auto immune disease.

Sorry to hear you have something else to worry about I hope things turn out ok
for you soon.

Rose
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2011 2:11:33 PM Quote
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Hi Rose

I would have a word with your GP, as I think you should still be taking it. I gather it helps prevent weakening of the bones in connection with osteoporosis.

Hope things are improving a little with the Humira.

Julia x
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2011 6:43:06 PM Quote
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Be interested to know what that is!

I have had ? over vit B12 at times but the second test has always been normal *enough*

Jenni xx
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smith-j
#7 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2011 7:34:16 PM Quote
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Thanks for all your comments. I will let you know if I find out what it is. I suppose it depends if my next blood test also comes back abnormal.

I did wonder if it is Vitamin D as I cannot sit out in the sun. Even having a slow meander around the garden on a dull days causes my face to burn. I now wear factor 50 moisturiser all year round. I am also extremely tired and I have often wondered if I am lacking in something (yes I know my brain power could be better BigGrin ).

As you all say it is obviously connected with the RA. When I go into hospital on the 29th for my first Rituximab it will be interesting to see if they say anything as they told me to make sure I had a blood test before I went in.

I will keep you posted.

Take care all

Jackie
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Tracy-Street
#8 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2011 8:51:24 PM Quote
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Jean,

Why aren't we allowed to sit in the sun?

I didn't know this.

Trace xx
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2011 8:52:51 PM Quote
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Hi i have not been tested for vitamin d but my face and head burn now just on bright days obviously a lot more when sunny.I was put on sodium hdrocloranate tablets. After about 3months i started to burn very badly and could not go out without a cap on.On my next visit to the rummy clinic i informed them they took me off the tablets and said they had made my skin sensitive. i am also on 20mg methertrexate.Hope it puts a new light on it.Tony
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:03:45 PM Quote
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Thank you Tony.

It's something I think I need to read up on.

Trace
Glenys-H
#11 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:38:04 PM Quote
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Well how odd, I was sitting in the chemist waiting for my barrow load prescription and reading a leaflet about osteoporosis and vitimin D. It also said that having RA means we are at a greater risk of having osteoporosis too. Glenys.
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:38:04 PM Quote
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Well how odd, I was sitting in the chemist waiting for my barrow load prescription and reading a leaflet about osteoporosis and vitimin D. It also said that having RA means we are at a greater risk of having osteoporosis too. Glenys.
jeanb
#13 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2011 8:33:49 AM Quote
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I now have something called Osteomalacia which, believe it or not, is a form of Ricketts and is caused directly by lack of Vit D and calcium. My bones are now pitted and spongy!! Obviously this is something else to be aware of. I am trying to do some research into it all, but there are so many conflicting ideas and opinions, it is very hard to see just what is what.

I asked my GP to check my Vit D levels on a whim after someone on the forum had their levels checked. The outcome is all this!! I would strongly urge anyone with RA to ask for their levels to be checked, as it can be sorted out quite easily when first picked up. Trouble is mine was so far advanced, it will now take ages to sort and is causing more bone damage.

Don't want to scare you, but I always think it's best to get things checked.
smith-j
#14 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2011 8:06:01 PM Quote
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Tracy

Sorry I have only just got back to you but I have been away. I cannot sit in the sun as the Methotrexate has made me extremely sensitive to the sun. I had to go and see a dermatologist and apparantly it is quite a common side effect. I was told to wear factor 50 all year round and even on a dull day like today if I do not put it on I can feel my skin burning.

Jean - I am definitely going to investigate this because as you say it is important to catch it early if it is going to damage my bones more. I know I already have osteoporosis as this was diagnosed many years ago in my spine, but nothing is said about this. I had a hysterectomy when I was 34 following birth complications but they did leave my ovaries intact. I am now 48 and was told I would go through an early menopause but still waiting. Obviously this can also affect bones.

Will keep you posted.

Jackie
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jeanb
#15 Posted : Saturday, July 23, 2011 8:51:01 AM Quote
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Please do, Jackie. I am very interested to hear how you get on. I have to admit I was shocked when all this came to light but there is no point in worrying is there? You just have to get on with it!

Take care and enjoy the weekend

Love Jeanxx
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#16 Posted : Saturday, July 23, 2011 4:38:21 PM Quote
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Jackie, thanks for bringing this up, I have the same problems with the sun. Strangely though, I have always been sensitive to the sun and my skin flares badly and makes me feel achy and sick. I was told when diagnosed that lupus was a possibility. Never had vit D levels tested so far as I know, had an appt with consultant yesterday, wish I had read this sooner!! will ask gp about testing. Hope you are ok, take care x
BARBARA
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#17 Posted : Sunday, July 24, 2011 9:50:07 AM Quote
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hi,i am on mtx 25 by jag and i got caught out last week on hols in spain,was in shade permanently,hat and 50+ cream but my legs got the sun and the itch was awful and legs looking like the pox are not good,be very carefull i didnt think i would react as i have,i do cover every time i go out but it got me,i must have dropped my guard for a second,i must check my vit D will say to medics next visit thanks for info,i also have oesteo in my neck and shoulders now,dorothy
smith-j
#18 Posted : Thursday, July 28, 2011 12:54:59 PM Quote
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Hello All

I have has the results of my second blood tests and I have a Vitamin B12 deficiency which has lead to Pernicious anaemia . Speaking to the doctor it all fits perfectly on why I have felt even more unwell than normal. I have taken the following extract from the internet:-

"The symptoms of vitamin B12-deficiency anaemia include:

feeling very tired
breathlessness after little exercise
palpitations - the sensation of feeling your heartbeat thumping in your chest
headaches
a reduced appetite
a sore mouth and tongue

If you have vitamin B12-deficiency anaemia, you may also look pale or jaundiced (have a yellowy tinge to your skin and the whites of your eyes).

As well as the symptoms of anaemia, vitamin B12-deficiency may cause symptoms related to your nerves. This is called vitamin B12 neuropathy. It may affect your movement and sensation, especially in your legs, cause numbness or 'pins and needles' and decrease your sensitivity to touch, vibration or pain. It can also cause confusion, depression, poor concentration and forgetfulness.

Pernicious anaemia is an autoimmune disease. An autoimmune disease is a condition caused by antibodies from your immune system attacking your body. Your immune system mistakes your own tissue as foreign and attacks it, causing inflammation. If you have pernicious anaemia, the inflammation happens in the lining of your stomach.

The exact reasons why you may develop pernicious anaemia aren't fully understood at present. It tends to run in families and is most common in people over 60. It affects more women more than men. If you have another autoimmune disease, such as Addison's disease, you may be more likely to develop pernicious anaemia."


Just when I thought I would not have to inject any more I am going to have to have B12 injections. I just need to get tomorrow's first round of Rituximab out of the way then they will tackle this.

I have also read that taking Folic Acid (which we all do with Methotrexate) can mask the condition.

I am thankful that they have diagnosed this as I could not understand why I was feeling so unwell outside of the normal RA. Oh well another thing to add to the never ending list.

Jackie
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jeanb
#19 Posted : Thursday, July 28, 2011 5:07:30 PM Quote
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Dear Jackie

I am so very sorry to hear this. However, apart from having to start injecting again, at least they have found out the cause of your problems and, hopefully, you will soon start to feel much better.

Please let us know how things progress and take good care.

Love Jeanxxxx
amandalewin
#20 Posted : Thursday, July 28, 2011 11:38:27 PM Quote
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Vit B 12 injections are supposedly fantastic and you will feel the difference!

So so sorry to hear all you've been going through since I have been having my babymoon....

Very pure Vit D is excellent for all those with RA- cod liver oil being the superior.

Much love and prayers,

Amanda
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